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Posted: Mar 7, 2017

The Rescue-Engine Debate

Editor’s Note: One of the most prevailing trends in fire apparatus design in the past decade has been departments spec’ing rescue-pumpers. Along with rescue-pumpers, quints have become common. There are numerous reasons for departments taking two rigs and combining them into one and myriad opinions. We asked Editorial Advisory Board members Bill Adams and Ricky Riley to give their perspectives on multipurpose apparatus.

For a large portion of my career, I was a staunch advocate of engines doing engine work, trucks doing truck work, and rescue companies who cut people out of cars and performed support operations on firegrounds. I lived it and breathed it in the organizations I was fortunate to be a part of, and it worked rather well with our apparatus and staffing models.

As I became a chief officer, we were able to place extrication tools on our front line engine company in my volunteer organization. These tools were just there for the quick door pop and to assist the rescue company on its arrival. Being a busy department, we responded to a large number of extrications in our response area and the surrounding areas. This mainly was because we were positioned to run a number of high-speed roads and limited access highways in our area. We made sure we documented these calls in the company journal and had a narrative added to each call so we could keep track of equipment and tools used on these incidents. This data collection started to steer the department in a direction of providing these services on a larger scale to our citizens. During this time, the rescue-engine concept had started up in the Washington, D.C., metro area with a number of departments trying to accomplish two functions with one rig. Also, manufacturers were starting to construct units that were specifically designed for the demands that this apparatus type was going to have to endure to perform these dual responsibilities.

Our department wanted to ensure that we were not adding just a function without supporting the core function of putting water on a fire. With staffing a concern for any department, we did not want to be out on the road coming back from a call or out performing community service in a single-function unit and have to go back to the firehouse to get the unit that flows water to respond to a structure fire. Having the standalone function units is great when the department has staffing for each one and it can respond quickly to calls for service without delaying the response time by having to go back and get the right unit for the call dispatched. By limiting these scenarios, we saw a chance to replace an aging unit with a hybrid unit that could enhance rescue capabilities for our community without sacrificing our ability to provide the engine function in a quick and timely fashion.

This hybrid concept did not come easy for the department, as we all had the mindset of a single function for each unit. Plus, a large number of the apparatus trying to fill these hybrid roles at that time were really not designed or constructed to do either one of the functions very well. They did not carry enough or the correct rescue equipment to properly handle the extrications, unique rescues, or technical incidents. Or, they could not function as an engine very well because of hosebeds that were built way too high or attack lines that required a ladder to reach and pull them. When we went and talked to the apparatus builders, we expressed our concerns about a number of issues:

  • Hosebeds that were too high.
  • Attack lines that were out of reach.
  • The ability to carry a large tool and equipment complement.
  • Compartment floor ratings to handle the heavy rescue equipment.
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Posted: Mar 7, 2017

The Rescue-Engine Debate

Editor’s Note: One of the most prevailing trends in fire apparatus design in the past decade has been departments spec’ing rescue-pumpers. Along with rescue-pumpers, quints have become common. There are numerous reasons for departments taking two rigs and combining them into one and myriad opinions. We asked Editorial Advisory Board members Bill Adams and Ricky Riley to give their perspectives on multipurpose apparatus.

For a large portion of my career, I was a staunch advocate of engines doing engine work, trucks doing truck work, and rescue companies who cut people out of cars and performed support operations on firegrounds. I lived it and breathed it in the organizations I was fortunate to be a part of, and it worked rather well with our apparatus and staffing models.

As I became a chief officer, we were able to place extrication tools on our front line engine company in my volunteer organization. These tools were just there for the quick door pop and to assist the rescue company on its arrival. Being a busy department, we responded to a large number of extrications in our response area and the surrounding areas. This mainly was because we were positioned to run a number of high-speed roads and limited access highways in our area. We made sure we documented these calls in the company journal and had a narrative added to each call so we could keep track of equipment and tools used on these incidents. This data collection started to steer the department in a direction of providing these services on a larger scale to our citizens. During this time, the rescue-engine concept had started up in the Washington, D.C., metro area with a number of departments trying to accomplish two functions with one rig. Also, manufacturers were starting to construct units that were specifically designed for the demands that this apparatus type was going to have to endure to perform these dual responsibilities.

Our department wanted to ensure that we were not adding just a function without supporting the core function of putting water on a fire. With staffing a concern for any department, we did not want to be out on the road coming back from a call or out performing community service in a single-function unit and have to go back to the firehouse to get the unit that flows water to respond to a structure fire. Having the standalone function units is great when the department has staffing for each one and it can respond quickly to calls for service without delaying the response time by having to go back and get the right unit for the call dispatched. By limiting these scenarios, we saw a chance to replace an aging unit with a hybrid unit that could enhance rescue capabilities for our community without sacrificing our ability to provide the engine function in a quick and timely fashion.

This hybrid concept did not come easy for the department, as we all had the mindset of a single function for each unit. Plus, a large number of the apparatus trying to fill these hybrid roles at that time were really not designed or constructed to do either one of the functions very well. They did not carry enough or the correct rescue equipment to properly handle the extrications, unique rescues, or technical incidents. Or, they could not function as an engine very well because of hosebeds that were built way too high or attack lines that required a ladder to reach and pull them. When we went and talked to the apparatus builders, we expressed our concerns about a number of issues:

  • Hosebeds that were too high.
  • Attack lines that were out of reach.
  • Read more
Posted: Mar 7, 2017

How Have Multipurpose Apparatus Impacted the Fire Service?

Editor’s Note: One of the most prevailing trends in fire apparatus design in the past decade has been departments spec’ing rescue-pumpers. Along with rescue-pumpers, quints have become common. There are numerous reasons for departments taking two rigs and combining them into one and myriad opinions. We asked Editorial Advisory Board members Bill Adams and Ricky Riley to give their perspectives on multipurpose apparatus.

Combining two single-function fire apparatus into a single multipurpose rig is not a new concept. The acceptance of motorization in the fire service brought about the creation of the triple combination pumper, combining the steam engine, hose wagon, and chemical wagon into one rig. Unlike today, the staff reduction and elimination of the expense of maintaining horses were results of the concept and not a reason for it. Following the triples were quads, quints, pumper-tankers, rescue-engines, and a multitude of other combinations with various monikers. The benefits of multipurpose apparatus are touted by manufacturers, purchasers, industry experts, and pundits alike. Many are outspoken and make compelling arguments. Most are valid.

Actual and perceived benefits are the driving forces behind multipurpose apparatus acceptance in the fire service. The benefits cannot be viewed objectively from a single perspective. There are too many players and too many variations. Concurrently, the players have equally varied opinions for why they dislike the concept. Career and volunteer firefighters, manufacturers and their dealers, as well as politicians have numerous, yet varied, reasons for promoting or accepting the concept. Seldom admitted and never discussed in the fire service is the possibility that personal agendas can obscure fact and reality.

In my opinion, there are hidden dynamics that some purchasers have failed to address when evaluating the multipurpose concept. Whether it is intentional or an oversight is immaterial. They are there. It must be acknowledged that the valid reasons for or against can vary by the size, location, and makeup of a fire department. What works well for a department in a congested northeastern metropolitan area may not be appropriate for a small department in the sparsely populated southwestern plains states. The pumper-rescue (or rescue-pumper) concept has become very popular in the past decade or two. A good majority of today’s pumper designs are of that style. It is difficult to do an objective analysis of the pumper-rescue concept because of the multiple variations of the unit and scenarios it may be placed in. Is the pumper-rescue always run as a first-out piece or as a support vehicle? Is the rescue portion of the vehicle designed exclusively for auto-extrication responses? Or, is it expected to perform as a “service company,” supplying lighting, salvage, and self-contained breathing apparatus support? A department may be hard pressed to find a vehicle to adequately perform all those tasks as well as serve as a basic and effective engine company on the fireground. It may be impossible if the functions are expected to be accomplished at the same time.

My intent is not to demean any multipurpose apparatus. They are tools no different than axes, nozzles, or cut-off saws. If used properly as designed and intended, they are an asset to the fire service. Because of the popularity of the rescue-pumper, I will be a “devil’s advocate” with that particular design - not to take an opposing point of view for the sake of debate but to make purchasers aware of possible limitations. Sometimes, asking a question gives a person cause to think and analyze. My disclaimer: I have both sold and purchased fire apparatus, and my opinions are traditional and biased.

  • Regardless of size, type, color, or manufact
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Posted: Mar 7, 2017

How Have Multipurpose Apparatus Impacted the Fire Service?

Editor’s Note: One of the most prevailing trends in fire apparatus design in the past decade has been departments spec’ing rescue-pumpers. Along with rescue-pumpers, quints have become common. There are numerous reasons for departments taking two rigs and combining them into one and myriad opinions. We asked Editorial Advisory Board members Bill Adams and Ricky Riley to give their perspectives on multipurpose apparatus.

Combining two single-function fire apparatus into a single multipurpose rig is not a new concept. The acceptance of motorization in the fire service brought about the creation of the triple combination pumper, combining the steam engine, hose wagon, and chemical wagon into one rig. Unlike today, the staff reduction and elimination of the expense of maintaining horses were results of the concept and not a reason for it. Following the triples were quads, quints, pumper-tankers, rescue-engines, and a multitude of other combinations with various monikers. The benefits of multipurpose apparatus are touted by manufacturers, purchasers, industry experts, and pundits alike. Many are outspoken and make compelling arguments. Most are valid.

Actual and perceived benefits are the driving forces behind multipurpose apparatus acceptance in the fire service. The benefits cannot be viewed objectively from a single perspective. There are too many players and too many variations. Concurrently, the players have equally varied opinions for why they dislike the concept. Career and volunteer firefighters, manufacturers and their dealers, as well as politicians have numerous, yet varied, reasons for promoting or accepting the concept. Seldom admitted and never discussed in the fire service is the possibility that personal agendas can obscure fact and reality.

In my opinion, there are hidden dynamics that some purchasers have failed to address when evaluating the multipurpose concept. Whether it is intentional or an oversight is immaterial. They are there. It must be acknowledged that the valid reasons for or against can vary by the size, location, and makeup of a fire department. What works well for a department in a congested northeastern metropolitan area may not be appropriate for a small department in the sparsely populated southwestern plains states. The pumper-rescue (or rescue-pumper) concept has become very popular in the past decade or two. A good majority of today’s pumper designs are of that style. It is difficult to do an objective analysis of the pumper-rescue concept because of the multiple variations of the unit and scenarios it may be placed in. Is the pumper-rescue always run as a first-out piece or as a support vehicle? Is the rescue portion of the vehicle designed exclusively for auto-extrication responses? Or, is it expected to perform as a “service company,” supplying lighting, salvage, and self-contained breathing apparatus support? A department may be hard pressed to find a vehicle to adequately perform all those tasks as well as serve as a basic and effective engine company on the fireground. It may be impossible if the functions are expected to be accomplished at the same time.

My intent is not to demean any multipurpose apparatus. They are tools no different than axes, nozzles, or cut-off saws. If used properly as designed and intended, they are an asset to the fire service. Because of the popularity of the rescue-pumper, I will be a “devil’s advocate” with that particular design - not to take an opposing point of view for the sake of debate but to make purchasers aware of possible limitations. Sometimes, asking a question gives a person cause to think and analyze. My disclaimer: I have both sold and purchased fire apparatus, and my opinions are traditional and biased.

  • Regardless of size, type, color, or manufact
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North Whatcom Fire & Rescue
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Pierce County Fire District #5
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Clark County Fire District 6

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Kitsap County Fire District 18
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