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Ground Circuits 

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Ground Part 7 of (?) Parts

Measuring Single Battery Ground Electron Current

Engine RUN

 

When the engine begins to RUN the generator takes over as the source of electrical energy needed to operate all vehicle circuits. The battery goes off-line and becomes a load as it receives electron current from the generator to recharge. Generator voltage is often referred to by the term "charging voltage" which is a higher voltage than battery voltage. Generator electron current which replaces battery electron current is often referred to by most technicians by the term "charging amps" implying the electron current provided by the generator.

 

If we are to test and evaluate the charging system and vehicle electrical circuit performance it would require that we measure both generator voltage and generator electron current underload to verify the charging system is performing properly. Figure 8 below shows the generator operating during engine run and the changes in electron current that occur. But first our focus is on generator electron current as it flows through the vehicle.

 

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Fig. 8

 

Electrons always travel from voltage source negative terminal to voltage source positive terminal. Since the charging voltage created during engine run is about 2 V higher than battery voltage, we expect the current clamp readings to be higher during engine RUN. All electron current comes from -GEN. Normal charging voltage will be in the range of 13.6 - 13.8 V during hot weather to as high as 15.1 V in extremely cold weather. In extremely hot weather the charging voltage may drop slightly below 13.8 which is perfectly normal for very hot weather. For now, let's stay focused on generator electron current because this plays a crucial role in testing a battery that is often overlooked. Generator charging voltage issues will be discussed in future parts of this series.

 

"Smart Charging Systems"

Some vehicles employ what is known as a "smart charging system" where an onboard computer controls the generator output. The computer monitors battery recharge current and when it detects battery recharge current has dropped to a predetermined level it indicates the battery is fully charged. At this point the onboard computer reduces the charging voltage to 13.0x V to prevent excessive battery gassing which is important when the battery is mounted in a confined compartment in the vehicle other than the engine compartment. Lowering the charging voltage also reduces the generator's load on the engine which can result in a slight boost in miles per gallon.

 

(The topics of charging voltage and charging amps, as well as "smart charging" controlled by computer is covered at length in our book "Electrical SHORTCUTS" in Section 6, which discusses the operation of generators and testing charging system performance based on voltage measurements.)

 

For the remainder of this discussion we will consider this vehicle does NOT employ "smart charging." The generator is not controlled by an onboard computer but with an internal voltage regulator. With the engine running, the generator is online and the battery is off-line. Motor vehicle operation during engine RUN is important to understand because this is when the majority of electrical problems show up.

 

Current Clamp #1

This reading is taken on the primary, and only ground strap, so we are assured that the reading indicates total generator electron current output to all vehicle circuits. It does NOT show electron current that is recharging the battery.

 

Current Clamp #2

If the current clamp is attached to the battery negative cable with the engine OFF and the crank sequence is initiated, the reading obtained is the cranking amps required by the starter motor to crank the engine. During cranking, electrons leave the battery negative terminal, flow down the battery cable to supply electrons to the starter motor. This produces a high reading in the range of 95 A to a high of 250 A for most engines.

 

(The topic of cranking amps - warm weather versus cold weather cranking - is covered at length in our book "Electrical SHORTCUTS" in Section 5, which discusses the operation and troubleshooting of the cranking circuit based on voltage and electron current measurements.)

 

Immediately after the engine begins to RUN, (the starter motor is disengaged) but a significant reading is still indicated by the current clamp. This is called battery "inrush electron current" to begin the recharging process. During engine RUN the electron current in the battery cable reverses direction as the generator starts to generate electron current. Electrons flow up the battery cable and into the negative battery terminal to recharge the battery.

As the engine continues to RUN, the battery continues to recharge and the recharge current should slowly decrease. Once the battery has fully recharged, that is, the energy (state of charge) taken from the battery to start the engine has been replenished, the current clamp reading will settle down to a "steady state" reading which we would like to see settled down to less than 10 Amps in 5 minutes of engine RUN.

 

Whatever the steady-state current happens to be remains a constant load on the generator. So, the lower the steady-state battery recharge current the better it is for the generator. This is entirely determined by the internal resistance of the battery. Just remember, the lower the steady-state reading the better the battery during recharge. High steady-state battery recharge current can burn up a generator.

 

(The topics of battery recharge electron current is covered at length in our book "Electrical SHORTCUTS" in Section 4 and Section 6, which discusses the operation and testing of batteries with the engine OFF and engine RUN.).

 

Current Clamp #3

This reading becomes significant in evaluating the performance of Lamp Circuit #1 since the higher generator charging voltage drives a higher electron current through the circuit. The higher current will likely cause any voltage drop problem to appear which may not be noticeable at the lower battery voltage when the engine was not running and electron current was lower.

 

Current Clamp #4

This reading indicates the electron current supplying all circuits grounded to sheet metal #2.

 

Current Clamp #5

This reading becomes significant in evaluating the performance of Lamp Circuit #2 since the higher generator charging voltage drives a higher electron current through the circuit. The higher current will likely cause any voltage drop problem to appear which may not be noticeable at the lower battery voltage when the engine was not running and electron current was lower.

 

Current Clamp #5

This reading becomes significant in evaluating the performance of Lamp Circuit #2 since the higher generator charging voltage drives a higher electron current through the circuit. The higher current will likely cause any voltage drop problem to appear which may not be so noticeable at the lower battery voltage when the engine was not running and electron current was lower.

 

In Summary So Far

We conclude that the best time to test the electron flow in any circuit is when the engine is running and maximum electron current is flowing through the circuit due to the higher charging voltage driving the highest electron flow through the circuit. Total generator electron current supplying all vehicle circuits with electron current can be determined by adding the readings from current clamp #1 and current clamp #2.

 

In Figure 8A we illustrate Current Clamp #6 is placed on the generator cable connected to the B+ terminal or +GEN. What can we expect from this reading? It happens to be a very common test procedure taught in electrical classes to determine maximum generator electron current. But this reading actually has little useful information.

 

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Fig. 8A

 

Kirchhoff's Law of electron current states:

"At any node (junction - connection) in an electrical circuit the sum of currents flowing into that node is equal to the sum of currents flowing out of that node."


We can summarize Kirchhoff's law for electron current in our generator circuit by saying that every time an electron leaves the negative terminal of the generator (enters the circuit) an electron must enter the positive terminal of the generator (leave the circuit) at the same time. This indicates that the electron current exiting the generator negative terminal must equal the electron current entering the generator positive terminal.

 

So, according to correct electrical theory, during engine RUN, the reading of Current Clamp #1 plus the reading of Current Clamp #2 (total electrons leaving the generator) should equal the reading of Current Clamp #6 (total electron current returning to the generator).

 

A Problem

The problem putting the current clamp on the generators positive cable is that it doesn't allow you to isolate how much recharge current is flowing through the battery. You cannot detect a battery that has excessive battery recharge current using this method. Excessive battery recharge current can only be detected from the reading of Current Clamp #2.

Stay tuned for more.

 

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Vince Fischelli  /  Director of Training
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