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Posted: Sep 13, 2017

Acceptable Thievery

Chris Mc Loone   Chris Mc Loone

Firefighters and fire departments are thieves. It’s true. They will blatantly steal a good idea when they see it.

That’s not to say they will claim credit for the good idea, but they will quickly steal it if it works. It could be an apparatus design, a new piece of equipment, a new training evolution - anything if it is good for the department. It’s even better when a fire department takes an idea and ends up improving it in ways the originator didn’t conceptualize. That’s what the fire service is all about.

So, it’s not a bad thing that fire departments steal from each other. Or, maybe emulate each other is a better way of describing it. But, it’s an important aspect of the fire service because if you emulate or steal an idea and don’t adapt it to your department’s deployment methods, there will be repercussions when you design the rig.

I’m no stranger to stealing ideas. Through the years, I’ve traveled to trade shows and I’ve certainly taken my fair share of pictures of fire apparatus, the way equipment is mounted, the locations of the equipment, how cabs are configured, etc. But, forwarding along such pictures has always carried a caveat that it might not work for our current truck or future truck, and we need to look at things first before jumping in.

This is why this month’s article by Bill Adams, “Apparatus Purchasing: FDNY-Style Hosebeds,” is so important. Although it refers to a specific hosebed style, its caveats cross all aspects of apparatus design. It’s not only about hosebeds - it’s a cautionary piece that transcends spec’ing hosebeds.

There is a give and take with almost every item on an apparatus spec. Some are simple. To reduce wheelbase, for example, you’re probably going to have to narrow the pump panel or reduce your compartment space. Going with a walk-in vs. walk-around rescue will cost you compartment space as well. Adding more compartments and, therefore, more weight through increased equipment may cause you to go from a single axle to a tandem axle - often increasing a rig’s length. And certainly, there are many decisions made that require the rear hosebed to be higher than some would prefer.

Beyond tradeoffs, what Adams explains is that you really need to know what it is you’re asking for, and simply asking for an FDNY style or low-hosebed style doesn’t really define what you are asking for. Unless an apparatus manufacturer specifically has a low-hosebed configuration option that details length, height, cubic footage, etc., then a fire department must be ready to provide its own definition of what a low-hosebed style is. Otherwise, it is extremely likely that it will get a truck that isn’t exactly what the department expected or wanted. Additionally, simply spec’ing a hosebed in use by another department means that you’re assuming that you will use the same amount and type of hose packed the same way as the department you are emulating.

Ultimately, thievery among fire departments isn’t a bad thing - provided, of course, they’re not stealing equipment from each other. The fire service’s success is predicated on improving on the past, mastering the present, and looking to the future. There will always be a better or more efficient way to do something, provided that however your department decides to do something more efficiently, members practice it often. There’s nothing wrong with adopting something from another department as long as it fits your first due and allows you to provide expert service.

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Posted: Sep 13, 2017

Acceptable Thievery

Chris Mc Loone   Chris Mc Loone

Firefighters and fire departments are thieves. It’s true. They will blatantly steal a good idea when they see it.

That’s not to say they will claim credit for the good idea, but they will quickly steal it if it works. It could be an apparatus design, a new piece of equipment, a new training evolution - anything if it is good for the department. It’s even better when a fire department takes an idea and ends up improving it in ways the originator didn’t conceptualize. That’s what the fire service is all about.

So, it’s not a bad thing that fire departments steal from each other. Or, maybe emulate each other is a better way of describing it. But, it’s an important aspect of the fire service because if you emulate or steal an idea and don’t adapt it to your department’s deployment methods, there will be repercussions when you design the rig.

I’m no stranger to stealing ideas. Through the years, I’ve traveled to trade shows and I’ve certainly taken my fair share of pictures of fire apparatus, the way equipment is mounted, the locations of the equipment, how cabs are configured, etc. But, forwarding along such pictures has always carried a caveat that it might not work for our current truck or future truck, and we need to look at things first before jumping in.

This is why this month’s article by Bill Adams, “Apparatus Purchasing: FDNY-Style Hosebeds,” is so important. Although it refers to a specific hosebed style, its caveats cross all aspects of apparatus design. It’s not only about hosebeds - it’s a cautionary piece that transcends spec’ing hosebeds.

There is a give and take with almost every item on an apparatus spec. Some are simple. To reduce wheelbase, for example, you’re probably going to have to narrow the pump panel or reduce your compartment space. Going with a walk-in vs. walk-around rescue will cost you compartment space as well. Adding more compartments and, therefore, more weight through increased equipment may cause you to go from a single axle to a tandem axle - often increasing a rig’s length. And certainly, there are many decisions made that require the rear hosebed to be higher than some would prefer.

Beyond tradeoffs, what Adams explains is that you really need to know what it is you’re asking for, and simply asking for an FDNY style or low-hosebed style doesn’t really define what you are asking for. Unless an apparatus manufacturer specifically has a low-hosebed configuration option that details length, height, cubic footage, etc., then a fire department must be ready to provide its own definition of what a low-hosebed style is. Otherwise, it is extremely likely that it will get a truck that isn’t exactly what the department expected or wanted. Additionally, simply spec’ing a hosebed in use by another department means that you’re assuming that you will use the same amount and type of hose packed the same way as the department you are emulating.

Ultimately, thievery among fire departments isn’t a bad thing - provided, of course, they’re not stealing equipment from each other. The fire service’s success is predicated on improving on the past, mastering the present, and looking to the future. There will always be a better or more efficient way to do something, provided that however your department decides to do something more efficiently, members practice it often. There’s nothing wrong with adopting something from another department as long as it fits your first due and allows you to provide expert service.

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Posted: Sep 12, 2017

Baton Rouge (LA) to Convert Blighted Property into EMS Station

Officials announced Wednesday that work has begun on a standalone East Baton Rouge Parish EMS station that will serve the Millerville area of Baton Rouge. The building is an old Jiffy Lube oil change shop located just south of I-12 at the corner of Millerville Road and Old Hammond Highway.
The building is an old Jiffy Lube oil change shop located just south of I-12 at the corner of Millerville Road and Old Hammond Highway.

One ambulance will be permanently assigned to the station 24 hours a day. The building has adequate space for more ambulances and crews in times of emergencies.

The ambulance and crew are currently working out of the Eastside Fire Department.

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Posted: Sep 12, 2017

Ambulance on Pit Road Creates Chaos at NASCAR Race

'NASCAR Race Hub' takes a look at the massive confusion that ensued when an ambulance stopped at the entrance to pit road as the leaders were pitting,and nearly caused Matt Kenseth to miss the playoffs.
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Posted: Oct 21, 2015

Chair

Elliot Courage
North Whatcom Fire & Rescue
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Vice Chair

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Vice Chair

Mike Smith 
Pierce County Fire District #5
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Secretary

Greg Bach
South Snohomish County Fire & Rescue
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Posted: Oct 21, 2015

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Doug Jones
South Kitsap Fire & Rescue
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Posted: Oct 21, 2015

Director #2

Paul Spencer 
Fire Fleet Maintenance LLC
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Director #3

Posted: Oct 21, 2015

Director #3

Jim Morris
Mountain View Fire Department
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Director #4

Posted: Oct 21, 2015

Director #4

Arnie Kuchta

Clark County Fire District 6

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Director #6

Posted: Oct 21, 2015

Director #6

Brett Annear
Kitsap County Fire District 18
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Posted: Oct 21, 2015

Director #5

Jay Jacks
Camano Island Fire & Rescue
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Posted: Oct 21, 2015

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Posted: Oct 20, 2015

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Brian Fortner
Graham Fire & Rescue

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