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The purpose of the Fire Mechanics Section is to promote standardization of fire apparatus and equipment preventative maintenance, improve safety standards and practices, promote workshops, conferences, and seminars related to the purposes of this Section, and to promote cost savings through standardization of building and equipment purchasing and maintenance.

RECENT FIRE MECHANIC NEWS

Posted: May 2, 2018

Front Suction on Fire Apparatus with Commercial Chassis


What can possibly cost more than $15,000 that could decrease a pump’s efficiency by 50 percent, require the purchase of heavier front axle components, increase the overall length of an apparatus, and add more than two feet to a rig’s wall-to-wall turning radius?

It’s a suction inlet on the front bumper of a commercial chassis fire apparatus. Front suction inlets are not common on commercial chassis apparatus and when specified probably should be job-specific. Regardless of whether it is called a front steamer, a front suction, or a front inlet, purchasers should specify if its intended purpose is solely for drafting or will always be used as an inlet supplied by a pressurized water source or both. Defining the purpose of the inlet can help vendors in recommending a layout. There can be a substantial difference in pricing.

There is no intent to disparage fire departments that use front suctions on commercial chassis. A common scenario is in rural settings where the only available water is carried on the apparatus to the scene. Additional water tanked in is usually stored in portable ponds where it’s drafted by the attack apparatus. It is a local decision whether a rig drafts from the sides, front, rear, or any combination thereof. It is one that should be periodically evaluated. Vendors are remiss if they do not inform potential customers of the available front suction options; their costs and advantages; and, just as important, any disadvantages. Fire departments can be equally remiss if they fail to investigate all options. An ideal time to evaluate firematic procedures is just prior to purchasing a new rig. Vendors must use care to not alienate potential purchasers when discussing fireground tactics. Purchasers should be receptive to new ideas and changes.

1 A 1960s-era B-Model conventional Mack pumper shows a common front suction installation on commercial rigs of that era. Back then, most front and rear steamer suctions were ungated and were used for drafting and big-fire hookups. Early front suction piping in wheel well areas of some commercial chassis showed evidence of “tire scrape.” (Photo courtesy of Harvey Eckart.)

1 A 1960s-era B-Model conventional Mack pumper shows a common front suction installation on commercial rigs of that era. Back then, most front and rear steamer suctions were ungated and were used for drafting and big-fire hookups. Early front suction piping in wheel well areas of some commercial chassis showed evidence of “tire scrape.” (Photo courtesy of Harvey Eckart.)

Grant Spencer, vice president of Spencer Manufacturing; Grady North, product manager at E-ONE; Mike Watts, national sales manager at Toyne; and Jim Kirvida, president and owner of CustomFIRE provided insight on the subject. The prices quoted by the manufacturers are approximate. They are ballpark figures an OEM’s representative could give potential customers. Attendees at trade shows asking for the price of a very basic installation may be perplexed later at the final price when all the desired options are made known and factored in.

The vendors agreed that there are numerous options and unknown factors that require clarification to provide a single price. According to North, “There are too many variables to quote pricing.” S

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Posted: May 2, 2018

Front Suction on Fire Apparatus with Commercial Chassis


What can possibly cost more than $15,000 that could decrease a pump’s efficiency by 50 percent, require the purchase of heavier front axle components, increase the overall length of an apparatus, and add more than two feet to a rig’s wall-to-wall turning radius?

It’s a suction inlet on the front bumper of a commercial chassis fire apparatus. Front suction inlets are not common on commercial chassis apparatus and when specified probably should be job-specific. Regardless of whether it is called a front steamer, a front suction, or a front inlet, purchasers should specify if its intended purpose is solely for drafting or will always be used as an inlet supplied by a pressurized water source or both. Defining the purpose of the inlet can help vendors in recommending a layout. There can be a substantial difference in pricing.

There is no intent to disparage fire departments that use front suctions on commercial chassis. A common scenario is in rural settings where the only available water is carried on the apparatus to the scene. Additional water tanked in is usually stored in portable ponds where it’s drafted by the attack apparatus. It is a local decision whether a rig drafts from the sides, front, rear, or any combination thereof. It is one that should be periodically evaluated. Vendors are remiss if they do not inform potential customers of the available front suction options; their costs and advantages; and, just as important, any disadvantages. Fire departments can be equally remiss if they fail to investigate all options. An ideal time to evaluate firematic procedures is just prior to purchasing a new rig. Vendors must use care to not alienate potential purchasers when discussing fireground tactics. Purchasers should be receptive to new ideas and changes.

1 A 1960s-era B-Model conventional Mack pumper shows a common front suction installation on commercial rigs of that era. Back then, most front and rear steamer suctions were ungated and were used for drafting and big-fire hookups. Early front suction piping in wheel well areas of some commercial chassis showed evidence of “tire scrape.” (Photo courtesy of Harvey Eckart.)

1 A 1960s-era B-Model conventional Mack pumper shows a common front suction installation on commercial rigs of that era. Back then, most front and rear steamer suctions were ungated and were used for drafting and big-fire hookups. Early front suction piping in wheel well areas of some commercial chassis showed evidence of “tire scrape.” (Photo courtesy of Harvey Eckart.)

Grant Spencer, vice president of Spencer Manufacturing; Grady North, product manager at E-ONE; Mike Watts, national sales manager at Toyne; and Jim Kirvida, president and owner of CustomFIRE provided insight on the subject. The prices quoted by the manufacturers are approximate. They are ballpark figures an OEM’s representative could give potential customers. Attendees at trade shows asking for the price of a very basic installation may be perplexed later at the final price when all the desired options are made known and factored in.

The vendors agreed that there are numerous options and unknown factors that require clarification to provide a single price. According to North, “There are too many variables to quote pricing.” S

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Posted: May 1, 2018

Update on Monticello (FL) Fire Apparatus in Guatemala

Monticello Rotary Club President Edward Carraway, who with Jim Jones, of the Crystal River Rotary Club, recently traveled to Guatemala to check on the truck and the other firefighting equipment that the Rotarians donated and meet with the truck's new crew and chief.

MVFD last year donated its 1982 fire engine to the local Rotary Club when the department upgraded its fleet with the addition of two used but newer engines. Even though the 1982 engine was deemed no longer adequate for use here, as it didn't meet U.S. standards, it was still functional and capable of viability. Thus, the Monticello Rotary Club, in conjunction with the Crystal River club, which calls itself the King's Bay Rotary, last year shipped the fire truck via barge to Patulul, a small village in Guatemala's mountainous region.

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Posted: May 1, 2018

Emergency Signal Installed at Cedar Park (TX) Fire Station

“The new signal will greatly enhance the safety of firefighters and the community, providing a safer exit and entrance into Fire Station Two,” Cedar Park Fire Chief James Mallinger said.  

The signal was a Fiscal Year 2018 Capital Improvement Project with a $90,000 construction budget. 

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Elliot Courage
North Whatcom Fire & Rescue
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Mike Smith 
Pierce County Fire District #5
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Greg Bach
South Snohomish County Fire & Rescue
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Doug Jones
South Kitsap Fire & Rescue
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Paul Spencer 
Fire Fleet Maintenance LLC
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Jim Morris
Mountain View Fire Department
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Arnie Kuchta

Clark County Fire District 6

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Brett Annear
Kitsap County Fire District 18
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Camano Island Fire & Rescue
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Graham Fire & Rescue

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