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Posted: Oct 1, 2018

Fire Apparatus Purchasing

When the word vendor is used herein, it is synonymous with dealer and salesperson. Both are intended to be gender-neutral as are the words his, him, and he. Additionally, there is no inference or accusation that all fire apparatus salespeople are always belligerent.

There have been some vendors in the marketplace who have been described as rude and abrasive, although none I know profess being so. Depending on the circumstances, even mild-mannered and reputable dealers may become hotheaded and downright ill-mannered when triggered. Some can become belligerent and even vindictive. What sets them off?

I believe there are two basic reasons. The primary one is when a vendor believes or knows he has been lied to, deceived, or ignored by an apparatus purchasing committee (APC) or its designee. That is a harsh statement—one not easily proven but nonetheless one that should be discussed.

VENDOR INTERACTION

Any discussion concerning selling fire apparatus should acknowledge that most of the time there is a preferred dealer. Often, a preferred dealer is the only vendor an apparatus purchasing committee (APC) will interact with. I make no judgment on whether or not that is ethical or morally correct. That dealer will have a reasonable expectation of securing the order and probably has met with the APC numerous times to design the intended apparatus and develop purchasing specifications. It is reasonable to expect such a close relationship will result in a mutual understanding where each “knows” exactly what the other wants or means regardless of what is verbalized or in a specification’s verbiage.

Depending on how, and even if, the APC interacts with a nonpreferred dealer can trigger a response from the dealer. Some purchasing committees will unfairly lead a dealer on. As an example, an APC may require multiple meetings, request detailed engineering blueprints and specifications, and perhaps ask for an all-expenses-paid prebid factory inspection trip while promising to write an open and competitive specification.

However, if the APC has no intention of purchasing the vendor’s rig and was just working him over “for technical information, a free lunch, and a plane trip,” then the vendor may be justified in being aggravated. How an ill-treated dealer may react is unknown. Some may walk away, albeit disgusted and possibly out several thousand dollars in expenses with no possibility of making a sale. Others may become belligerent and justifiably so. Yet, others may become vindictive and attempt to belittle the APC and the fire department and even publicly humiliate both. That’s not right.

If an APC fairly and equally evaluates multiple manufacturers and does not like a vendor’s product—so be it. That vendor lost, the other vendor won, and the ballgame is over. Most reputable dealers will not cry foul and will move on because they might be the preferred dealer the next time and will expect a similar response from their peers.

AMBIGUOUS SPECIFICATIONS

The second reason, although a questionable one, for why a dealer may become belligerent is experiencing frustration with deciphering ambiguous purchasing specifications and being exasperated attempting to find a clear explanation of them. The preferred dealer should not have any concerns with purchasing specifications that are proprietary to his product or even written by him. Nonpreferred dealers may have a problem, especially if they have not had the opportunity to meet with the APC.

Some dealers will attempt to honestly decipher an ambiguous purchasing specificat

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Posted: Oct 1, 2018

Pierce Ascendant Fire Apparatus a Memorial to Local Hero

 
BOB VACCARO
 
BOB VACCARO

The North Patchogue (NY) Fire Department on Long Island began looking into the purchase of a quint a few years ago. According to Ted Peters, assistant chief, the department wanted to have a vehicle that would be a first-out response vehicle to respond to all alarms between the hours of 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. and be able to handle the work load with limited staffing if necessary. It would also be used for mutual-aid responses locally, if requested.

The district is primarily like all others on Long Island—numerous apartment and condo complexes as well as strip shopping centers, schools, big box stores, restaurants, and a major medical center. So, this vehicle would have to be able to operate at all these types of target hazards as well a normal dwelling fire.

Since it operates primarily Pierce apparatus, the department was interested in continuing along this line. The local Pierce dealer had informed the department that the manufacturer was going to introduce a new line of aerials, so North Patchogue waited to see what Pierce was offering.

The new Ascendant line of aerials was introduced, and the department decided to go with a 107-foot Ascendant ladder on a single-rear-axle Velocity chassis. The truck committee comprised chiefs, commissioners, and district employees.

North Patchogue worked with Firematic, the local Pierce dealer on Long Island that it had a great relationship with previously on its other purchases. The quint was purchased through the Houston, Galveston Area Cooperative (HGAC), which is a group purchasing organization. By working with HGAC, the department didn’t have to go out to bid, saving a great deal of time.

The North Patchogue (NY) Fire Department’s 2018 107-foot Pierce Ascendant quint built on a Velocity cab and chassis. (Photos by author.)

1 The North Patchogue (NY) Fire Department’s 2018 107-foot Pierce Ascendant quint built on a Velocity cab and chassis. (Photos by author.)

Multipurpose

The vehicle is set up to be used as an engine, a truck, and a heavy rescue. It carries a full complement of HURST battery-operated rescue tools that can be backed up by the vehicle’s generator if needed. It also carries the normal engine company fittings and tools, a full set of saws, Milwaukee battery-operated grinder and band saws, a man vs. machine kit, shoring and struts, and battery-operated fans.