Fire department members involved in specifying and purchasing fire apparatus have a new event designed specifically to get them the information they need to write their apparatus specifications without a sales pitch—the 2025 Fire Apparatus Design Symposium presented by the Fire Apparatus Manufacturers Association (FAMA). The event takes place in Orlando, Florida, from October 21 to October 24 at the Rosen Centre, 9840 International Drive, Orlando, FL 32819.
Jason Witmier, FAMA’s vice president explains that the purpose of the symposium is not to sales pitch someone. Every presentation will have competing manufactures. For example, if a class would cover deck guns, deck gun suppliers would be the presenters. Attendees would not hear why one company’s deck gun is better than another or why a third one is better than the first two. They would discuss what goes into a deck gun, the latest technology built into them, and what attendees should look out for as they choose the one for their next fire apparatus. “This is truly educational, presented by the people who engineer design, test, and build these products,” Witmier says.
One course, he says, covers 2027 engines that must comply with updated EPA regulations. In this case, Chris Crowel, of Cummins, will present on what the EPA changes mean in 2027, and he’ll be working with representatives from cab and chassis manufacturers to cover how these changes will affect the space inside the cab, what the heat rejection will be like, if purchasers will lose space for driver and officer seats, or if the cab will grow in size. “These are the types of questions everyone’s been asking for months now,” says Witmier. “By the time we present this, we should have some facts to put in front of people and really get the word out on exactly how you’re effected going forward.”
Other topics include specification writing to discuss what’s changed in writing a spec and what’s changed in precons. It also covers what apparatus purchasing committees (APCs) should be considering to ensure they are getting their specs right. “So many people want to write a spec based on what they did 15 or 20 years ago,” says Witmier. “In the past, you could almost spec one truck and go to precon and come out with a completely different truck, for maybe a few dollars more. You can’t do that anymore. If I order a truck on July 1, 2025, Part A is $1,000, and Part B is $900. When I go to precon two years later, I’ll want to go with that cheaper part. Even though it’s less expensive, there’s been inflation over two years and that part’s price has gone up. So, it is absolutely critical that fire departments write the right way from the start.” He adds, “You don’t have a second shot at it these days. You have to get it right the first time.”
It’s About Connections
Besides providing attendees with the information they need to buy a rig the day they get home, the 2025 Fire Apparatus Design Symposium is an opportunity for purchasers to connect with each other and various industry suppliers. To that end, vendors will have the opportunity to discuss their products with attendees, but not through a full-blown exhibition. No apparatus will be on display. Each vendor can set up at a table, with or without products, but Witmier asserts that it’s more about connections and peer networking so when purchasers need to write their specs, they have details about a particular part and the connection to contact for more information.
Attendees
Target attendees include chiefs, APC members, mechanic